americans to shop inside the federal employees' own health business plan. i'm a former federal bureaucrat. scott, is this feasible? what are the advantages of the federal employees' health care plan? >> it's a true marketplace. you have all different kinds of plans being sold and people can actually choose the plan that they want and tailor what they want to receive. the amazing thing is that the plans are actually cheaper than the obama care plans even without the federal subsidies. if you take the list price of a plan in that system and try to compare it to a comparable obama care in the same market, you'll see that there are cheaper options in the federal plan. my argument is this, people who lost their insurance, who were kicked off their insurance, rather than forcing them into obama care, let them shop in the federal program. let them have access to a real marketplace. >> chris, thousands of plans are in this federal employees' health care plan. it's whatever consumers want, the insurers are going to provide it. it's not just like four basic plan, one